Steve Jobs One Last Thing


Steve Jobs was a genius of the modern age.

He gave us tools to change our lives

and the way we communicate.

Here comes a device that comes with no manual,

and everybody knows how to use it... amazing.

They weren't just hits in the sense that they sold well,

but they actually changed the whole nature of technology

and caused everyone else to follow them.

This intimate portrait is a revealing insight

into Steve Jobs' life...

Andy Warhol gets down on his hands and knees,

Steve showing him how to use the mouse.

His career...

He shook up a whole industry.

His character...

Steve loved those creative ideas.

His faults...

Steve ultimately betrayed everyone.

His artistry...

Just the smooth lines of it.

And his achievements...

He is going to inspire a whole new generation.

By the people who knew him best.

I'd give a lot to have Steve's taste.

If he needed You, he was your best friend,

and he would seduce you.

When I was having a hard time, he would be on the phone,

he'd drive up from silicon valley,

take me out for dinner, hang out and take walks with me.

He turned on me, total street bully,

in my face, screa... We were... and I went crazy.

I'd never been there.

I don't ever want to be there again.

How much fun we had... ohh...

How much fun we had in those days doing things together,

you know, but you lose it, you can't ever go back,

and just to have those conversations that make us both smile.

Through their eyes, we reveal what made him

the man who always gave us...

Now there's one more thing.

Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs "One Last Thing"

Steven Paul Jobs died on October 5, 2011,

at the age of 56,

a life cut short in its creative prime by cancer.

His death was not a surprise,

and yet its impact reverberated around the world.

The news had spread, and the tributes were created

on the new iDevices that his visionary genius had made.

His is a success story that could only have happened

in the U.S.A.

I don't mean to say that there aren't geniuses

and world-changing people everywhere... there are...

But I think in Jobs' case,

the particular path of his career,

this could only have happened in America.

Steve Jobs' world-class salesmanship found

a global audience in his famous Apple product presentations.

He always had "one more thing" to announce.

Everyone thinks, "wow. That's... that's so much,"

and, "well, we got one more thing,"

and then you put your biggest thing at the end

because it'll tip it.

It's good, uh... it's good showmanship really.

Tragically that "one more thing"

has now become "one last thing."

The news that Steve Jobs had finally logged out

made headlines everywhere.

This man really had changed the world.

When you grow up, you tend to get told

that the world is the way it is,

and your... your life is just to live your life inside the world,

try not to bash into the walls too much,

try to have a nice family life,

have fun, save a little money.

In this exclusive, never before seen interview,

Steve Jobs gave a rare glimpse of his vision of the world.

That's a very limited life.

Life can be much broader

once you discover one simple fact,

and that is everything around you that you call life

was made up by people that were no smarter than you,

and you can change it, you can influence it,

you can build your own things that other people can use.

Um, once you learn that, you'll never be the same again.

In the Los altos suburb

of San Francisco, California,

just about everybody was an engineer

or worked in electronics

a childhood spent here in the future silicon valley

was the first key lucky break in Steve Jobs' young life.

His closest childhood friend was Bill Fernandez.

In about eighth grade, halfway through,

this new guy came into the school,

who was Steve Jobs, and we were both introverted,

intellectual, kind of socially inept,

and we gravitated towards each other.

The two boys shared the same hobby.

We started taking long walks and talking

about the meaning of life and what is this all about,

and after a while we started doing...

In addition to walking and talking...

Doing electronics projects together.

Fernandez also knew another electronics geek,

his neighbors' son Steve Wozniak,

universally known as Woz.

So one day, Steve Jobs bicycled over to hang out with me

and do electronics projects in the garage,

and out in front was Wozniak washing his car.

So I thought to myself, "ok. This Steve is

"an electronics buddy, he's an electronics buddy.

They'd probably like to meet each other."

Fernandez had no idea at the time

that the meeting between his two friends

would change our world.

Jobs and Woz were soon to start a business together.

Its name was Apple.

If Woz and Jobs had never met,

there never would have been an Apple computer.

There would have been computers,

and there would have been personal computers,

but we probably wouldn't have the kind of

wonderful empowering things that people

fall into if Woz and Jobs hadn't met.

This neighborhood we grew up in had

a lot of lockheed engineers in it,

and I would go up and down the street

to the various dads on the street

and get mentored in electronics,

and Steve Wozniak's father was one of the people

who mentored me.

As Jobs and I were walking over,

I noticed Woz out washing his car,

and I said, "hey, Woz. Um, come over and meet Steve."

So, "Steve, meet Steve."

And this is where it happened,

basically right here.

Woz and Jobs became inseparable friends,

but their first venture was not a computer.

The pair developed an electronics Kit

mimicking telephone router codes

to make free calls around the world.

You know, when you make a long distance phone call

in the background you hear, "do do do do do"?

Those are the telephone computers actually signing each other,

sending information to each other to set up your call.

And there used to be a way to fool

the entire telephone system into thinking

you were a telephone computer.

You could, you know, call from a pay phone,

go to white plains, new York, take a satellite to Europe

take a cable to turkey, um, come back to Los Angeles,

and you'd go around the world 3 or 4 times and call

the payphone next door, shout in the phone,

and be about 30 seconds, it would come out the other phone.

The pair quickly moved on from phone-jacking for fun

to creating computers, building the prototype

of the very first Apple.

It's a fond memory for Steve Wozniak.

He was always thinking about certain technology,

the early products that got developed, the building parts,

what those might lead to in our future,

and he was a always pushing me as an engineer...

"Could you possibly add this someday,

could you possibly add that someday?"

Yes, yes, yes, I could,"

thinking, "no. It's way, way off,"

but eventually we all did.

In those early days, Woz and Jobs took their creation

to the home-brew computer club, an early computer club,

an early computer users' group in silicon valley,

where it quickly attracted attention from their peers.

I met both Steves, Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak

at a meeting of the home-brew computer club

in Palo Alto.

Our first meeting was really simple.

It was in the parking lot,

and I helped them unload Woz's FIAT

and carried in what I guess was the first Apple I

to show it off to the assembled multitudes.

When that same first Apple I was auctioned in 2010,

it attracted even more attention.

It heralds the home computing revolution.

This is the first computer where you use a keyboard

and a screen to enter and read data.

Selling for £110,000.

From the hippie days of 1970s California,

a handful of teenage geeks emerged to change

how we work, play, and communicate with each other.

Founders can be divided into two camps.

There are hippies, and there are nerds,

and Jobs was definitely the hippie,

and Woz was the nerd.

And the hippie has the grand vision,

and the nerd is able to realize the vision.

The nerd knows everything about women

but doesn't know any women.

You know, Steve knew women.

So there's that distinction.

So they really needed each other.

He knew how to beat it out of Woz,

and he would do that,

and his contributions at that time were saying,

"gosh. We could sell these things."

I mean, which doesn't sound like much,

but it's huge when you're dealing with a guy in Woz

who never thought about selling anything.

I wanted it to happen so badly,

I gave this computer away.

I gave away the listings, no copyright notices,

no nothing, and then Steve Jobs came

and saw the interest, and he said

"why don't we start a company to make some money?"

And I said, "fine."

They did want to start a business.

They raised money to start a business.

They knew that they couldn't do it on their own.

They sought out older people to help,

and Steve Jobs in particular was quite persuasive.

In Apple's earliest days, the two Steves,

Jobs and Woz, took on an older and more experienced partner.

Ronald Wayne now lives and works near Las Vegas,

a fitting location for a man who walked away

with nothing from a $37 billion no-lose bet.

Wayne was invited to discuss a business proposal

with Jobs and Woz.

That was the first time I had met Steve Wozniak,

a fascinating guy a fun guy to be with,

very... not only a fun guy to be with,

the most gracious man I've ever met in my life.

As far as Wozniak was concerned,

the world was a great big sand box

with a lot of toys to play with.

But Ron's opinion of Steve Jobs was not so hot.

I wouldn't put gracious in his description.

He had the kind of manner, the kind of approach to people

and environments that were business directed, ok?

He was extremely serious.

Wayne acted as referee in a minor difference of opinion

between the two equal partners.

Well, Steve Jobs was so impressed

with my diplomacy in that particular situation

that he immediately came back and said,

"ok. What we're going to do is form a company,"

with Woz and Jobs getting 45% each,

and I would get 10% as a tiebreaker

in the event of any philosophical disputes

that might occur in the future.

10% of Apple today would be worth


but despite his share in the company,

Ron was worried that working with Jobs and Woz

might prove to be too stressful.

At 40, I thought I was getting a little old for that.

They were absolute whirlwinds.

It was like having a tiger by the tail.

So Ron decided to hand back his share

for nothing and walk away with no regrets.

A lot of people have the impression

that somehow or other I got diddled out of something.

Well, I did not. Nobody diddled me out of anything.

Wayne may not be bitter,

but he wasn't the only early Apple employee

who made a life decision most of us would regret.

The funny thing is that Steve Jobs hired me,

and he said... he had hair just down to his waist at the time,

and as I recall he only ate fruit,

and he said, "we don't have very much loot,

so we'd like to pay you in stock."

I held out for the cash.

When Steve Jobs first launched Apple,

the computer industry meant mainframes and minicomputers.

Huge devices sat in air conditioned rooms,

and users worked on terminals.

It wasn't a personal experience.

The Apple II was the first computer

that looked like a consumer electronic device.

It was actually designed, and they thought

about the user experience

and that it was intended really to be used

by a single person in some interactive way

that was enjoyable to the user, different.

Steve always thought much more broadly

than just technology.

He was certainly a techno-visionary,

but the key to his greatness is to see how broad he thought.

He was obsessed with design, with elegant design,

and he was obsessed with the overall experience

of technology and the idea of creativity generally.

So somehow he was able to bring these things together

and create technology that made peoples' eyes light up.

And I wait 8 hours in a line,

and I'm hungry, I am everything you imagine,

but I'm happy.

I wait for my iPad

and really, really, really happy now.

Jobs drew on a diverse range of influences to feed

his creativity, including a class he dropped into

at college in Portland, Oregon, in the early seventies.

Reed college has one of the best calligraphy courses

in the U.S.

His teacher had a major impact on his aesthetic

and the clean lines of his products.

We had many very bright students here,

d we had bright thinkers

and people that wanted to change things

and improve the world.

But Palladino witnessed first hand

the impact Jobs had on his peers.

The other students brought him to me

like they were bringing me someone very special.

They really had a high regard for him.

I guess they could see the dynamics

already forming in his thinking.

Jobs completed the course in 1974

but returned to palladino just two years later.

He was enthusing about a machine he

had created in his garage and seeking advice on a font.

He was interested in telling me what he was doing

and how he was using what he had learned in class,

but he wanted some help with Greek letters

because he wanted a Greek font,

and he couldn't find satisfactory models to go from.

Before Steve started working on computer typefaces,

they were in very bad condition, and any improvement

would be a step forward.

The resulting fonts appeared not just on Macs

but ultimately PCs, too,

dramatically improving the user experience

but not for Robert.

I never touch computers.

I write everything by hand.

Getting letters in the mail is getting to be very rare.

Dropping out of college,

Jobs went on the hippie trail,

traveling to India and studying Buddhism,

this also had an impact on his work at Apple.

I first met Steve in 1975.

He had recently returned from India.

He's way ahead of his time.

He wasn't the typical teenager.

He asked questions that t re a lot more serious

than the normal 20-year-old.

He was looking to understand the true nature of things,

and I think he came to the zen center

Toto continue his search.

Steve was very much taken with Zen, Zen Buddhism.

Zen represents the relationship between things,

things of the world.

In zen, it's expressed in the art.

You see it in flower arranging, Ikebana,

you see it calligraphy, you see it in in artworks.

Steve was very much taken with that

and especially calligraphy.

He noticed the way the lines and the spaces had a relationship.

I think his genius was being able to take the principles

of zen and incorporate it into the products

that came out of Apple.

Jobs freely acknowledged how these outside influences

had affected him.

He was always trying to look for external references

and external influences,

and he'd talk about, you know, his Mercedes was beautifully designed

because those German guys were thinking beautiful thoughts, I guess.

He loved aphorisms.

You know, Picasso said, "good artists copy,

great artists steal,"

and he loved to say that.

He was the guy who came with

"something would be insanely great."

What does that mean?

Much of what Apple did was built

on the efforts of others.

A 1979 deal gave him access to Xerox technology,

one thing blew him away, a prototype mouse.

He gave his own team orders to make one, only better.

"You got to build it for less than 15 bucks,

"it's got to last two years,

"I want it to work on the desktop,

"a normal formica desktop,

and I also want to be able to use it on my jeans."

As I left the meeting headed out to my car,

I was thinking, "does this really make sense?

Is Steve crazy or is there something here?"

If Steve wanted something,

his team just had to innovate,

so for dean n at meant a trip to the drug store.

As I entered Walgreens,

I had in my mind most importantly was,

"where do I find these spheres,

these balls to be a part of the mouse?"

And I had thought about the underarm deodorant

as the right solution.

And I emerged with some roll-on deodorant

and a butter dish.

And as you can see here, there are of course

different sized balls,

depending upon how it is applied.

Not only that, but then, once I had the balls,

I said, that's a quick way to have a structure

to put around the ball so that I can start interacting with it?"

I remember going to the house wares area,

and I found a butter dish which was about this big,

and that became the beginning part

for the mouse, as I felt it.

So I used the butter dish, the roll-on ball

and was able to create a prototype.

It's hard to believe that in a design so small

as something that fits in your hand

there could be much controversy around it,

but it turns out there was one major controversy,

which was how many buttons should there be?

The original Xerox PARC had 3 buttons,

and there was a great debate about how many buttons were right,

and Steve always had the notion of simplicity.

The magic of Apple products is simple.

There was one button, and it's magic.

From the early days, one man influenced Steve Jobs

more than any other, his friend and rival Bill Gates.

Apple's history interweaves with Microsoft's.

Their CEOs gave a unique interview

to journalist Walter Mossberg.

It was to my knowledge the only time

they ever got onstage together to submit themselves

to an extended interview with journalists.

Their interview gave Walt unparalleled insights

into the dynamics of their relationship.

But then there was a floating...

From the start, Gates was overshadowed

by the more polished, confident Jobs.

I made... I...

Let me tell the story. So Woz...

I'm not fake Steve Jobs.

If you saw them together, Steve always dominated the conversation.

In part that's because I think Bill was always fascinated by Steve.

He was a real observer, and he would just look at this guy and say,

"what the heck is going on here?"

We've kept our marriage secret for over a decade now.

He admired Steve for his ability to interface with people,

connect with them, you know, affect them.

They were partners, you know, for a long time.

The very first Apple II computers had Microsoft software in them.

But while the banter was good-natured,

the rivalry between the two was deep-rooted.

I personally can attest to having heard

each of them say very nasty things about the other

off the record in private over the years.

I think the antipathy partly grew out of two things.

On Jobs' side, he believed that Microsoft

had stolen the basic ideas in the Mac.

From the point of view of Gates, I think,

he found Jobs difficult to deal with.

Steve is so know for his restraint.

I think Gates felt that Jobs got more credit

than he might have deserved as being the great technologist.

Neither person is hugely likable.

Certainly Steve Jobs is an acquired taste,

and so is Bill Gates for that matter.

Um, they both have their moments.

Bill Gates is a a better friend than Steve Jobs,

but Steve Jobs is more fun than Bill Gates.

Jobs had glamour and dynamism.

By the mid 1980s, he was one of the richest

self-made men in America.

He was just 29.

People are going to bring them home over the weekend

to work on something Sunday morning.

They're not going to be able to get their kids away from them,

and maybe someday they'll even buy a second one

to leave at home.

Which made him a natural subject for "playboy."

Interviewing Jobs was a unique experience

for writer David Sheff.

The phone rung one day,

and it was not a PR person who called,

but it was Jobs himself, and it really was

an indication of the way that he did business

and really continued to do business.

Apple was very different. The second you walked in the door,

you felt like you were in a completely new environment.

The conference rooms instead of, you know,

of number 103c were called Da Vinci and Michelangelo

and Picasso, and indeed it was Picasso

that I was escorted to to see Jobs for the first time.

As the two got Toto know each other,

Sheff realized he had a front row seat

on what was then an unimaginable technological future.

Steve started drawing on a place mat.

We went back and forth, and basically by the end

of that constructed what looks exactly like an iPad.

Steve said this machine,

this small device as big as a book,

would allow us to keep in touch with one another,

it will replace the telephone and would replace bookstores.

He saw it as a reader on this very small device

and read it with editing capacity, note-taking capacity.

I mean, he really envisioned the iPad almost 30 years ago.

Jobs and sheff quickly became close friends.

Through the late sixties and seventies

in very similar ways, gong through some of the counter culture,

you know being, influenced by some of the eastern mysticism,

buddhism, the LSD culture, Timothy leary.

Turn on, tune in, rock out.

He was always so excited about everything,

and we went to movies together,

and we went to the opera together,

and he could talk about everything,

and he was this incredibly giving, loyal friend.

When I was having a hard time, we'd be on the phone,

he'd drive up from silicon valley,

take me out to dinner, hang out,

and take walks with me, and, um, that's pretty rare.

In 1984, they visited the home of Yoko Ono

for the ninth birthday party of Sean,

her son with John Lennon.

Jobs took along a birthday gift that fascinated

not only Sean but the whole star-studded guest list.

Steve opened it up, pulled out what was

one of those first Macintoshes off the assembly line,

set it up on the floor.

Sean was down on the floor with him, Steve turned it on,

put macpaint in there.

It took him about two seconds to show Sean how to deal with it,

and Sean pretty soon was drawing pictures.

Later Steve told me it was one of the first times

he'd watched a child with a Mac.

Eventually I sort of became aware that there were some people who'd

come in to the room, and I looked over my shoulder,

and there was Andy warhol.

So there was this great moment that I'll never forget.

Andy warhol gets down on his hands and knees

with Sean on one side and Steve on the other side.

I member that warhol would pick up the mouse,

and instead of gliding it along the floor,

the tiled floor in Sean's bedroom,

he would sort of pick it up and was trying to figure out

how to make it work, and Steve very patiently

would sort of lower his hand down and say,

"no. You kind of push it along."

So Andy sort of fooled around with it,

and he was completely mesmerized.

I mean, when he zoned in on something,

the rest of the world disappeared,

and that was what it was like watching warhol

in front of a macintosh for the first time.

And then he got this big smile on his face, and he looked up.

He said, "I drew a circle."

And it was great.

Life had been good for Steve Jobs.

He was worth a million dollars when he was 21.

He was worth $10 million when he was 22.

He was worth $100 million when he was 23 years old.

So he knew nothing but success, and when you're 23 years old,

you're worth $100 million,

you are pretty damn full of yourself,

and that's what Steve became, and so he had huge ambition.

But in 1985 at the age of 30,

his charmed run of luck was about to come to an abrupt halt.

Seeking someone to help run his rapidly expanding business,

he hired in Pepsi executive John Sculley.

President John Sculley admits Apple will be

just another personal computer company unless macintosh

becomes an industry milestone in the n nt 100 days.

There was kind of a love affair at the beginning.

I mean, Steve really trusted him

and really saw a kindred spirit,

someone who would help him build Apple.

His love was Apple.

He envisioned being with Apple for his life.

He said, "but that doesn't mean there won't be periods

"when I will leave and I will do other things

and my life will weave in and out of Apple."

Once again, Jobs' foresight was spot on.

Two years after Sculley arrived at Apple,

the love affair turned sour as company profits faltered.

Steve was never fired from Apple,

but he was ostracized and demoted

and put in an office in an empty building,

and after that he... He resigned in 1985

and then immediately sold his more than 6 million shares...

He was the largest single shareholder of Apple at the time,

and sold his stock at a bad price

and didn't get as much money as he should have

or could have had he done it smartly, but he was angry.

He felt so betrayed, so angry, so disillusioned

that Sculley was, in his mind, at least part of

if not the ringleader in what he viewed as a coup

to remove him, and Steve was pissed off,

and he was really pissed off about Sculley

because he brought Sculley in and trusted him

and then felt betrayed by him.

So he sold his stock and he went off,

took his tens of millions of dollars

but not hundreds of millions of dollars

and started a new life.

But there were still people willing to back him

with hard cash.

One of them was self-made texan billionaire

and former presidential candidate Ross Perot.

He saw how wounded Jobs had been by Apple.

I think at first it was a tremendous disappointment,

which I can certainly understand.

Secondly, he picked himself up, dusted himself off,

and started all over again with very little hesitation,

and I really admired that.

You know, otherwise you could sit around in a dark room

and sulk about it, but that's not Steve.

Steve started a company called NeXT

to do a computer that was gonna be what he thought

Apple should have been.

Uh, to aim it at the education market because they...

Apple had had conspicuous success in education.

There were some people he could steal from Apple

to market to that segment,

and he thought starting small made sense.

But even starting small needs big money.

I invested $20 millions in NeXT.

He contacted me, asked me to be a principal investor

and to serve on the board with him,

and I agreed to do it just because of my support for him,

and there was no question in my mind that if he...

If he wanted to do it, it would get done.

He's great with attracting and motivating

the best of the best people.

He's great at encouraging men to be creative

and come up with new ideas and not just be little robots,

which many big companies just want you to be a little robot

and do what you're told to do,

and the last thing they want to hear from you is a creative idea.

Steve loved those creative ideas,

and that was a magic part of the success of NeXT.

A new Steve Jobs was rising out of the ashes

of the boardroom battle at Apple,

and this time he was ruthless.

He invested $5 million capital in a corporation called Pixar,

and he took 70% of the company, and the employees took 30%.

Steve kept investing because we would run out of money

and he did not want to be embarrassed by failure

after having been booted out of Apple,

so he would put more money in

and take more equity away from the employees.

So over the course of about 4 or 5 years,

he owned it all.

Alvy quickly felt he was losing control

to the new master.

I would look at my employees looking at Steve,

and I realized they're in love.

They're just looking up at him with big Doe eyes

just soaking in everything he's saying

as if it was true, and it wasn't.

So you can see that it was very disruptive.

Our management style was to be two hours away from him,

try not to have him come into the building.

Standing up to Jobs could be a painful experience,

as Alvy found out in one memorable boardroom meeting.

He turned on me, total street bully,

in my face, scream... We wer... and I went crazy.

I'd never been there.

I don't ever want to be there again.

That's the reason I got away from him.

We were screaming at each other in full bull rage

with our faces about that far apart,

and during that... So he was insulting

my southwestern accent.

It was just street bully stuff.

I ill don't know what happened.

Something broke. And during this face-off...

Literally a face-off...

I marched past him and wrote on the whiteboard.

Now it was unspoken rule...

Which I hate, unspoken rules...

That only he could sit in front of the whiteboard

and only he could use it.

Nobody had ever tested it,

but at this point, I tested it.

I marched past him and I wrote on the whiteboard,

and he said, "y-y-you can't do that.

And I said, "what? Write on a whiteboard?"

And he stormed out of the room,

and then I was in shock for the next week or moths.

I just didn't know what had happened.

Everyone in Steve Jobs' life went through 3 phases...

They were either being seduced, ignored, or scourged,

and it all depended upon whether he needed you or not.

If he needed you, he was your best friend,

and he would seduce you,

and then you would work like a dog,

and if you weren't working hard enough, he would scourge you,

and ultimately he would throw you away.

On the personal level, it was not fun,

it was not the way I want to be treated by another human being.

Steve ultimately betrayed everyone.

And some said the new Steve Jobs wasn't afraid

of claiming l the credit, too.

Disney took "toy story" and another one

of their movies to new York for the critics to see,

and the critics just... They didn't even look at the other movie.

They just went nuts when they saw "toy story,"

and they came back and basically told Steve

that it was going to be a huge success,

and that's when he... that's the point his ability to see

something spectacular is about to happen.

He just moved just in and exploited that right to the hilt,

and I must say he did a great job.

He became a billionaire from it.


So Steve's genius is to move when he has a good idea.

I don't think they're necessarily his ideas,

but, boy, does he know how to move

and market them like crazy.

He the world's genius marketeer,

including of his own self-image.

But the best was yet to come for Jobs.

Apple was in trouble.

They wanted him back.

They were begging him to come back

because they knew he could fix it,

and he did come back, and he fixed it,

and the rest is history.

One man who witnessed Jobs' return to Apple

was friend Walt Mossberg.

He came back to Apple, and the company was almost dead.

Literally. It was 90 days from going bankrupt.

He said to the people at this very demoralized,

almost out of business company,

"we're not looking backward.

"I don't really care that we once had

"the first successful personal computer.

"I really don't care that we were famous and successful.

"We're not anymore, and this is where we're starting from,

and this is where we're moving."

And so when you see the second coming of Steve Jobs and Apple,

Apple went from being a wide-open and wacky company

to be a very disciplined company

that understood its financials

at a level that few companies do.

That's because Steve thought of every dollar

as being his every dollar.

They have resolved these differences in a very, very...

It was an investment from Bill Gates

that ultimately helped to save Apple,

but when Gates made a a live appearance with Jobs

to explain the deal, it didn't go down well

with the loyal Apple audience.

Bill Gates was actually onstage rescuing Apple, rescuing Apple.

He did two things.

He gave them $150 million for which he got

nonvoting stock that expired

after a certain number of years,

and he promised to keep producing Microsoft office,

the macintosh version, for, I think, 5 years,

and so he was onstage rescuing Apple,

and yet the acolytes who were filling the room

had learned to hate him.

They treated him as, you know the, devil,

the antichrist, and they booed him.

But Jobs with his eye ever on the bottom line,

had a different view.

There were too many people at Apple

and in the Apple ecosystem playing the game of

"for Apple to win, Microsoft has to lose,"

and it was clear that you didn't have to play that game

because Apple wasn't going to beat Microsoft.

Apple didn't have to beat Microsoft.

Apple had to remember who Apple was.

It was just crazy what was happening that time,

and Apple as very weak, and so I called Bill up

and we tried to patch things up.

I think he learned to be a better businessman.

I think he learned a little more humility.

Steve really changed in a number of ways,

and he changed primarily because of failure.

Failure affected him, and he learned from.

Jobs created a brand-new product at Apple, the iMac.

I think there was a decision to look different.

Remember, their motto immediately after his return was "think different,"

and he didn't say that because he didn't believe it.

He really did want to think different,

and they would have to appear different

to show that they were thinking different.

The pair joked about the relationship

between "Mac Man" Jobs and "PC Man" Bill Gates.

PC guy is great but not a big heart.

His mother loves him.

His mother loves him.

PC guy is what makes it all work actually.

All right.

It's worth thinking about.

The truth about Bill Gates is a brilliant man

who you could... and I did talk to for long periods about the future.

He could think quite intelligently

about the future, but the way Microsoft worked

as a business was far more incremental than Apple.

All the while, they were working on some big leap,

and Microsoft tended to do the incremental stuff

almost all the time.

What's Steve's done is quite phenomenal.

His ability to always come around

and figure out where that next bet should be

has been phenomenal.

Apple literally was failing

when Steve went back and re-infused

the innovation and risk-taking

that have been phenomenal.

So the industry has benefited immensely from his work.

We've both been lucky to be part of it,

but I'd say he's contributed as much as anyone.

I think he built the first software company

before anybody really in our industry

knew what a software company was

except for these guys and that was huge.

Bill Gates is a brilliant man.

He did a lot for the world in technology.

And he is now doing a lot for the world in philanthropy,

and I think highly of Bill Gates,

but...Of the two of them,

the one that took the bigger risks

and changed the game more often, it was Steve...

It was Steve Jobs.

I'd give a lot to have Steve Jobs' taste.

He has natural...

It's not a joke at all.

I think in terms of intuitive taste

both for people and products,

the way he does things is just different,

and I think it's magical.

Despite their rivalry, in this joint appearance

after Jobs had been diagnosed with cancer,

they displayed a healthy respect

and even affection for one another.

I think of most things in life as either

a Bob Dylan or Beatles song,

but there's that one line in that one Beatles song,

"you and I have memories longer than the road

that stretches out ahead,"

and that's clearly true here.

That's sweet

I think we should end it there.

It was one of the highlights

of my journalistic career to be there.

Thank you very much

Thank you so much.

In fact, we were quite taken aback

by the standing ovation and seeing some of the people

from where we were sitting onstage actually shedding tears.

It sounds strange, but it was actually an emotional thing.

So I can move this with just a touch anywhere I want.

Steve Jobs, now at the peak of his creative genius,

was leading Apple to the peak of its creative success.

The key to the success of the company

was in moving beyond the computer,

was in seeing how the microprocessor

was getting so cheap that it could be applied

to other consumer electronic devices.

Innovative new products poured

in a seemingly endless stream

from Apple's development laboratories,

pouring a stream of cash into Apple's coffers.

250 million or a billion or however many iPods are out there

are what built the Apple of today, not the Mac.

Approaching the age of 50,

barely a quarter of a century after making

his first million greenbacks, Jobs was worth $2.3 billion.

Now he picked up the pace of Apple's evolution.

Computers? They were yesterday's news.

He was conquering the world of music.

Great new products.

Jobs was hurting his competitors.

iTunes pretty well killed off the music store,

and virgin mega-stores, you know, have slowly

been disappearing around the world.

Half a million songs are downloaded

on iTunes every day,

in many cases changing artists' lives.

Hip-hop group the black eyed peas were asked

to star in an iTunes commercial.

They later became the most downloaded band on iTunes,

but at the time, they didn't understand

this new cultural phenomenon.

They said, "hey. They want to use a black eyed peas song

for an iTunes commercial,"

and I said what's iTunes?"

And they said, "they're not paying much,

but they're going to give you guys iPods."

"What's an iPod?"

This is the new iPod Nano.

But Jobs' influence on the music industry

went far beyond simple star making.

Way before iTunes, Steve Jobs has been

a part of music because every major studio

has a Mac computer in it.

I mean, the Mac computer is an artist's computer.

Musicians are still important,

but people like Steve Jobs are uber, uberimportant.

They bought CDs, and they want to buy downloads.

People don't want to rent their music

Life in Apple's orchard

had never been more fruitful.

Then Steve Jobs learned he had cancer.

A standing ovation for Apple ceo Steve Jobs

as he greeted the public for the first time

in more than a year.

He carried on working, but the years that followed

were a roller coaster of hope and despair.

Most poignantly he was asked

what the next few years might hold.

The future is long.

Ha ha ha!

The last few years have reminded me that life is fragile

um, you know...

Finally he withdrew from public life.

Only his closest friends saw how he was coping

with the threat of an early death.

Steve Jobs loved to take walks.

He did a lot of his thinking and his talking

with his close friends like Larry Ellison

and a number of other people that he was friendly with

in silicon valley, and he would go

on these long walks sometimes around Palo Alto,

where he lived, and sometimes in other places.

It just was his preferred method of thinking

and daydreaming ideas with people.

One day I was out in silicon valley.

He found out about it, and he conveyed to me

that he would like me to come over to his house,

and this was just after his liver transplant,

which as we all know is a very serious kind of thing

that takes a lot of recovery,

and he wanted me to come over

and just talk about industry gossip

in a way or events that had gone on

since he'd been kind of out of action.

He was very frail.

We talked about his health,

and he talked about how he felt he was recovering,

and in the middle of this, he said, "let's go for a walk,"

and I said, "really? Really? You're sure you want

to go for a walk?"

We're about halfway to the neighborhood park,

and he stops, you kn..

He wasn't gasping for air or anything,

but he was not well-looking man,

and I said, "Steve, why don't we go back to the house?"

And he smiled or chuckled, and he said,

"no. We're not going back to the house.

"I just need a minute and then we're gonna go on to the park

"because that's my goal.

"I set a goal every day, and my goal now

is to get to this park."

I said, "you're sure?" And he said, "yeah."

So we walked to the park, and, you know, he was fine.

We talked by the way the whole way.

We were dog what he does on walks,

which is we were talking about different things,

and we got to the park, and we sat on a bench,

and we talked about... In the park,

if I remember correctly, we actually talked

more about life and health and... you know,

I had had a heart attack some years before,

and he was lecturing me about that,

and I was sort of lecturing him, as well,

about work/life balance and all these things,

and then we got up and walked back

and talked some more.

And the last thing he said to me was

"you know, Walt, you and I have been

"through lots of adventures over the last 15 years,

and we're going to have some more adventures to come."

We never did.

On October 5, 2011, Steve Jobs died.

The next day, his closest friend and colleague

Steve Wozniak paid his own tribute.

I'm going to miss the chance to go to him

and just sit down and share just person to person.

How much fun we had... ohh...

How much fun we had in those days

doing things together.

You lose it, you can't ever go back

and just have those conversations

that make us both smile.

As the world mourned, the most fitting tribute

came from one of Steve Jobs' young fans.

19-year-old Hong Kong-based design student

Jonathan Mak Long created an image

on his Mac that went viral around the world.

There was no real research behind it.

I just messed around on my computer,

and it just happened.

It made sense to incorporate his silhouette,

his profile into the logo.

It's gotten around 200,000 responses on my blog.

Some people have said to me that the logo actually

made them cry, and I thought it was

a really strong reaction to have,

but it made sense because Steve Jobs

had such a great impact on our world.

He wasn't just this person who made all these great gadgets.

He actually changed the that way we communicate.

When you grow up, you tend to get told

that the world is the way it is and your life

is just to live your life inside the world,

try not to bash into the walls too much,

try to have a nice family life, have fun,

save a little money.

How amazing is it that we live in an era where his legacy

will transform people's lives and experiences of technology

for the foreseeable future?

This single individual gave us the original Apple,

the macintosh, and Pixar

and the iPod and the iPhone, iPad.

That is astonishing.

Steve Jobs created the most respected brand in the world

and shook up a whole industry,

and he did it with a lot of panache and style,

and, you know, great respect for him for it.

Life can be much broader

once you discover one simple fact,

and that is everything around you that you call life

was made up by people that were no smarter than you.

The facts are the story of his life,

the story of his successes, the story of his achievements,

the stories of the great things he did

for other people continue to go on because

that's good for our country,

it's good for the nation, it's good for the world,

and it's also good for the people.

Of course, that's what it's all about.

I think the world will miss Steve Jobs.

He took stuff to a new place,

and I do identify with that.

It's exciting when you do that,

so I do find the excitement of that,

and he also made things that were beautiful,

great to touch, great to hold, good to look at,

and different colors.

The minute you understand that you can poke life

and actually something will...

You know, if you push in, something will pop out

the other side, you can you can change it,

you can mold it,

um, that's the most important thing.

There's one thing on which everyone agrees...

Steve Jobs left a legacy that has changed the world.

He had the ability to think up new ways

of doing things, not just improve what we have,

do a better version of something,

but do it in a totally different way

that the world would swing towards.

And so we fall in love with Steve because he gave us

these toys that were not only fun but really useful. Wow!

It's upended industry after industry,

it's forced everyone else to follow in his path,

and it has touched billions of people.

He will be regarded as the person who unlocked

the creativity of a whole generation.

He's changed the way we look at computers, phones,

how we share, interact.

He's going to inspire a whole new generation.

A 5-year-old 20 years from now is going to create and design

and invent and define a world totally different

than the way we see it now,

and it's going to be because of Steve Jobs.

Even then he had this ability to bridge

a very intellectual world of high technology

with something that everyone could relate to.

Here's a guy who revolutionized the computer industry,

the music industry, the motion picture industry,

the telephone industry... There's 4...

And maybe more, I don't know,

but certainly those 4,

and if you compare him with Edison,

well, there was the electric power industry,

the motion picture industry, and the music industry.

Edison only had 3.

That's impact.

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